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November 03, 2026 • 08:00 AM
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Check out NPR’s newest podcast, Machine Gods. It’s the official podcast of the singularity, meaning — the hypothetical future when machines will outpace our own intelligence…and our control. Whether you think that future is coming or not, hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton are here to help you understand the people trying to build it… and how their technology works. On this episode, listen to their exclusive interview with safety researchers who were fired by OpenAI. Interested in more technology and AI news? Email us your question at [email protected] public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org.

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Check out NPR's newest podcast, Machine Gods. It's the official podcast of the singularity, meaning — the hypothetical future when machines will outpace our own intelligence…and our control. Whether you think that future is coming or not, hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton are here to help you understand the people trying to build it… and how their technology works.

On this episode, listen to their exclusive interview with safety researchers who were fired by OpenAI.

Interested in more technology and AI news? Email us your question at [email protected] .

Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show's perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org .

Listen to Short Wave on Spotify and Apple Podcasts .

This episode was produced by Juan Diego Ramires. It was edited by Lauren Gonzalez. The audio engineer was Jimmy Keeley.

NPR does not offer or accept money for coverage or interviews. Anyone who makes such an offer or request is not an NPR employee and does not represent NPR.

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